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    Tips, Tricks and Troubleshooting - 1st Edition


Tips, Tricks and Troubleshooting
  Edition #1

Collected from PCBUILD, http://freepctech.com

Compiled by Max Timchenko, 2000-01
   NOSPIN Group, Senior Staff Editor

Version 1.00, released 30th January, 2001, posts cover 1st January - 20th August 2000

by the way, it is very recommended to search the database by entering keywords, and not simply looking for the right post..

Posts by (in alphabetical order as in mail headers):

Alexandre Breveglieri  
Art Cassel   
Arthur Young
Bill Cohane
Bill Kapelas
Bjorn Simonsen
Bob Wright
Boyd Ramsay
Brad Boutwell
Brad Loomis
Brendhan Horne
Bryan S. Tyson
Byron Wolter
Carlos Diaz
Carroll Grigsby
Chris Hayes
Chuck Watters
Daniel Wysocki
Dave Gillett
Dave Jones
David Nasser
Deborah Anderson
Dennis Noble
Don Kendrew
Don Penlington
Donald Gaither
Donna Cook
Doug Simmons
Earl Truss
Eric Greenberg
Ernie Goens
Frank R. Brown
Frank Suszka
Guido Piraino      

 

Guido S. Piraino
Herbert Graf
James Ritchie
Jeff McConnell
Jim Griffin
Jim Meagher
Jim Woodford, Jr
Joe Baire
John Chin
Joseph Hallare
Jun Qian
Kees Kouwen
Kenneth Alan
Boyd Ramsay
Kyle Elmblade
Larry  Fisk
Mark Rode 
Martin Kurr
Mary Wolden
Matthew Ballard
Oscar Vi
סas
Patricia Osborne
Patrick Black
Paul Mailhiot
Paul Traynor
Peter Hogan
Peter Shkabara
Richard Tabas
Rick Glazier
Roger Griffiths
Russ Poffenberger
Russell Smith
Steve Wolfe
Sunil Bector

Susan Stubbs
Wanda Irby
Yui Shin 

 

 

BIOS - All but keyboard

 

Any reason for some bios motherboards to have as default stopping at errors "ALL BUT KEYBOARD"?

 Actually, there is a purpose for this.  It is not uncommon for someone to want a server or workstation set up to be able to boot without a keyboard. In most cases it's a server that you do not want to dedicate a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to.  You boot it without these and all works fine. However, if the BIOS is set to stop on the error of no keyboard, there is no way to completely boot the machine without having one attached. 

- Kyle Elmblade

 BIOS - Beeps on POST

 If a PC repeatedly beeps that is a sign of the BIOS there is a hardware problem you can even figure out by the "sort" of beeping which hardware problem for more information go to this site:

http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/sys/beep/index.htm

 - Kees Kouwen 

BIOS - Entering BIOS in Compaq Prolinea 575

 Hi,

        When the computer starts to boot up, there is a point where a small white box blinks in the upper right hand corner.  Hit F10 when you see the box. 

- Donald Gaither

 BIOS - Tweaking and Reference

For those who may be interested in finding out more about "Bios Tweaks", I have these sites book marked for use when building or repairing computers.

 http://www.ping.be/bios/

http://www.sysopt.com/bios.html

http://www.chaintech.dk/QUESTION/biosq.HTM#What

 CAUTION!

As with anything you do to a computer you must use caution. Changing certain settings may cause your system to balk on start up or not start at all. If you need to change the settings, make a log of what the settings are at the present time so you will have a backup in case something doesn't work. When you do change something, write down what you changed. <smile> In a panic you will probably not remember what you changed or why.

 - Frank Suszka

 CD-ROM - Audio CD - D/A Output

 The 2 pin connector that you refer to is for Digital audio (SPDIF) from your cd rom. 

 If you have a sound card that supports digital audio, you can connect your cd rom to the sound card digitally, which according to SB is supposed to keep the digital sound signal pure until it is converted to analog for your speakers.  If you also have digital speakers then the sound is never converted to analog. 

 The sound Blaster Live series supports Digital audio, but not all cd roms that have the SPDIF Digital connection truly support the SPDIF connection.  SB used to have a place on their site where they had tested different cd roms and told you which ones did support SPDIF connections.

- Mary Wolden

 CD-ROM - Cleaning

I was able to resurrect a dead cd rom using this cd rom cleaning fact.  It explains exactly how to clean the inside of your cd rom drive.  I figured I had nothing to lose by trying.

http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_cdfaq4.html#CDFAQ_027

 - Mary Wolden

There are several sites you might want to try. I use this one when I'm in need.

http://www.alldata.com/pro/customerservices/questions/cdmaint.htm

 

The other two,

http://www.computerhope.com/help/cdrom.htm

http://www.techadvice.com/help/Products/C/cdRomDrives.htm

are very helpful if you are a tech. I hope that one of these sites will answer your question and get your son back on the road... As far as computing goes.

 You didn't mention how old the system or CD-ROM was. If it is an older version, it may not be worth trying to fix.

 - Frank Suszka

CD-ROM - Not recognized on cold boot

 Try setting your Bios for the IDE CDROMs, to None, or CDROM, instead of using Autodetect! I have found this option to work with problem ATAPI devices.

 

-  Steve Wolfe

 

CD-ROM - Troubleshooting - Read Errors

 

> I have mounted the drive above my CD-RW drive. Could this cause a heat problem as I notice that drive was quit warm when it crashed? There is no room between the drives for air circulation.

 

You will see heat problem. There should be at least an empty bay between your CD-RW and CD drive, and possible extra fan should be used to avoid heat problem. If you can feel the heat from CD drive when it crash, it is heat problem. I have seen a true story about how a CD-RW burned itself because the user mounted CD-RW and CD drive next each other. About two years ago, I had heat problem (when play games, very similar to your situation - I ran a game for 4 hours, I almost burned the CD), now I have left a 5" bay open (I removed the cover), and have an extra case fan.

 

- Jun Qian

 

CD-ROM - Vertical switch

 

I just noticed on my CD drive that I have a vertical switch, which is currently in the off position. What is this?

 

The switch, when turned on, is to allow you to use the drive in a vertical position, or turned side ways.  Although most people use the drive horizontally...   if you were to turn the tower on it's side, (assuming it is in a tower case and not a desktop), this would allow you to slide the CDs in to the drive and have them function.  These drives and other build specifically and tested specifically to be mounted vertically are often also used in Rackmount cases where nearly all drives are mounted vertically in the front.

 

- Bob Wright

 

CD-RW - Installing

 

I just ordered an Internal CD-RW. I have never installed or used a CD-RW but I have installed other hardware such as hard drives, CD-ROM, video, and sound cards. I would like to know of any caveats that I should be aware of with the installation and/or use of this new hardware.

 

When first plugged in, the CD drive will "look like" a normal CD drive to the system.  To burn anything, you will have to install at least one program. Your drive will no doubt come with at least two programs. They may (or may not be) "stripped down" versions of  full retail products.

 

One "type" of program allows you to burn Audio and Data CDs of both the write once and the erasable type. Another program will allow you to use the CD-RW drive as a hard drive with removable media.  It is important to understand the difference. After that, it is a virtual "minefield" filled with lots of new and sometimes difficult questions. One thing people forget is that cheap media is just that, in some cases. Get a few name brand CD-RW disks and play with the software for awhile and get used to it before you start turning out "write once" CD-R disks. Note that if you want to play music in a normal CD player it must be recorded in Audio CD format, and "generally" (for compatibility reasons) will work better if a CD-R disk is used.  You can put music on a CD as data, but almost nothing other than a computer will be able to play it.

 

When buying CD disks, 74 minute disks will work with all drives. To use 80 minute disks, you must have a drive and burning software that will support them.

 

- Rick Glazier

 

 

For the hardware, nothing special than a normal CDROM, however I did see some CDRW/DVD don't like to be slave drive (may caused by software however).

 

You may have problem running the software. I have a sence that you are going to use Adaptec software. In my exp, it is buggy (unless you have the latest version with lastet patch), and I don't like its DirectCD, I would recommand to use Nero or some thing else rather than Adaptec. If you have no other option than Adaptec, for your own good, when you do the installation, do a custom install - install Easy CD Creator only! Avoid DirectCD as possible as you can.

 

- Jun Qian

 

CPU - Cooling - Fans, connectors w/ 2 or 3 pins

 

The extra wire is for the RPM sensor. Your motherboard probaby doesn't support it. You can plug it in just fine. If you ever get a motherboard that has the monitoring chip, you will be able to read the fan RPM, either through the BIOS, or through one of the Windows based hardware monitoring programs available.

 

- Russ Poffenberger

 

CPU - Intel - 80486 - L2 cache performance

 

> Does anybody remember any hard data as to performance with or without a L2 cache on a 486 ?

 

     From what I have experienced L2 cache does not supply as huge a performance boost as people tend to believe. At higher clock speeds where the core runs 4 or 5 times the speed of the memory bus L2 certainly becomes more important (in cases where the L2 runs at either core or close to core speeds) but in 486 class machines L2 cache has never in my experience supplied more than about a 5 to 10% boost. L1 cache is much more important. Now again, it does depend, some tasks benefit from L2 more than others. A lack of L2 cache will not impede the additional performance of additional RAM and processing speed. I myself ran a 486DX4/120 (overclocked from 100) with 16MB and it "managed" win95 OK, not stellar but usable as a backup system. I have found that Linux is very good at getting every last bit of performance out of a machine. While X might be a little sluggish on that machine I am sure that it will run quite well. If you forgo X it will fly pretty well.

 

- Herbert Graf

 

CPU - Intel - Difference between PPGA / FCPGA

 

The FC-PGA package is used on PentiumŪ III processors, and is referred to as the Flip Chip Pin Grid Array package. The PPGA package is used on IntelŪ Celeron™ processors, and is referred to as the Plastic Pin Grid Array package.

 

The PPGA package used on the IntelŪ Celeron™ processors has the actual silicon core facing down towards the motherboard. The silicon core is covered by a heat slug helping to dissipate heat from the core. The heat

slug transfers heat from the core to the heatsink. As processors get smaller and faster, the ability to dissipate heat from the processor core is become more and more critical. The FC-PGA package, flips the silicon core over

facing up. The core sits on top of the actual package and is exposed. The silicon die is exposed and makes direct contact with the heatsink.

 

They are all in the Socket 370 style of sockets, just how the die is possitioned is the difference in PPGA vs. FC-PGA.

 

- Patrick Black

 

CPU - Intel - Pentium II - Verifying authenticity

 

Visit the Intel site below to find a utility to give information on CPU family, model and stepping.  Look under the heading "Processor Authentication" and subheading "Verifying a processor purchase and current operating speed".

http://www.intel.com/newsgroups/processors/pent2help.htm#sixteen

 

- Joe Baire

 

CPU - Intel - Pentium III - E, B, and EB explained

 

 

http://www.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/prodbref/

 

Look at figure 1...half way down the page.

 

Basically, there are the "E" and the "B" and the "EB", and there are the "no letter after the speed" Pentium III processors.

 

The "no letter" 600 and below are fabricated using .25 Micron technology. (The smaller the number, the better. Because the transistors are smaller, a die can hold more of them and the processor will use less power when running). These .25 micron processors have 512 KB of off die (half speed) L2 cache....just like Pentium II processors.

 

The "E" versions are the ones that are .18 Micron and have 256 KB of on-die L2 cache that runs at full processor speed. If the processor is faster than 600, they don't bother adding the "E". In other words, they're all "E" after 600 MHz. so they stopped specifying it.

 

The "B" versions run with a 133 MHz. FSB systems. In other words, the Pentium III "B" processors are half integer devisable by 133. (If dividing by 66 or 133 gives approximately an integer, it *may* be a "B".)

 

The "EB" versions are .18 Micron, have the 256 KB of L2 cache, and run at 133 MHz front side bus. If faster than 600, they don't bother adding the "E" to the name.

 

An example: 800 MHz divided by 133 MHz. is 6.01 (close enough to 6) and there are both 800 and 800B. (I'd say 800E and 800EB, but everything over 600 is an E.) There are both 800 = 8 X 100 and 800B = 6 X 133. (6 and 8 are the multipliers, 100 and 133 are the FSB frequencies.)

 

Finally, there are both slot one and 370 pin versions of many Pentium III processors. (Check the link above to see what versions come in slot one and which are socketed.)

 

There is a slot one 800, and a 370 pin 800, and a slot one 800B, and a 370 pin 800B.

 

The place where it really gets confusing is with 600 MHz processor because there are so many versions of the 600 MHz Pentium III: 600, 600E, 600B, 600EB...all in both slot one and 370 pin versions. There are eight different versions of the 600 MHz. Pentium III.

 

- Bill Cohane

 

CPU - Intel - Slot 1 to PPGA connector

 

> I have a Soyo socket 370 MB 7WI/L or something like this, can't remember, but I would like to install a celeron 300a slot 1 cpu I have on hand in it. Is there an adaptor made to do this?  I know there is the 370 to slot 1

 

AFAIK, no. It would be too expensive, too physically unstable, and the adapter probably wouldn't be electrically stable either (because of the lengthy path runs on some traces and not on others).

 

- Herbert Graf

 

CPU - Intel vs. Athlon

 

from the CPU side: athlon 700 is much much faster than P3-550. If you use some programs that specify to ONLY use P-3 SSE instruction set, the programs gain performance increase from P3, but AMD will be still faster. However, when you talk about whole system, there are lot of other issues. I can list some here, you may need to give more details on these components:

1) which mobo is used (in both system)

2) if graphics performance is important to you (for graphics, games ...), which video card in used (in both system)

3) which operation system you are going to use, windows 2000 may have hardware related issues.

4) what programs are you going to use. "bad" designed software can make good system looks bad, eg. some video driver could work better under Intel than AMD system (this kind of problem should be fixed when there are update available).

 

Personally, I would go for AMD.

 

- Jun Qian

 

I can tell you that I was at a presentation a few weeks ago demonstrating the speed of the new Athlon CPU's. We were shown 2 identical system, (not quite identical, as the Athlon uses the AMD and Via Chipset, and the PIII uses intel.) But, these 2 machines were sitting side by side, both running 600mhz CPU's, one PIII- 600 the other the Athlon 600.

 

The two machines were started with a mouse click to run the Latest version of WinBench. All I can say is the Athlon Blew Away the PIII, as it finished the test almost 3-minutes faster than the PIII. I was impressed enough, that I now am the proud new owner of an Athlon 700, and love it. It is fast, and runs solid as a rock! Not a single crash or lockup in over 2 weeks.

 

Hope this answers your question, and doesn't seem too Biased  :-)

 

- Steve Wolfe

 

While several factors affect the performance of a system, assuming that the two systems are as close to identical except for processor, an AMD700 with BLOW AWAY a PIII500, chances are an AMD700 is faster than a PIII 700. AMD really has something with the Athlon, I hope that more MB manufacturers

start producing high quality boards.

 

- Herbert Graf

 

CPU - Multiprocessor System

 

We have at least three dual processor systems in the Network Operations Center here at The NOSPIN Group.  I know that we definitely did not realize a 100% increase in processing over a single chip system of the same speed, although the systems are certainly faster.

 

One significant issue is with the programs that you run.  For an application to take advantage of multiple processors, it has to be "multithreaded", that is, it has to have the capability to be "split" into multiple parts that can run simultaneously or almost simultaneously.  You'll probably find that most programs that you use aren't multithreaded, although a lot of new graphically challenging games (like Quake III and others like it) are.

 

All is not lost, though, because most multiprocessor operating systems (including Windows 2000) can use multiple processors efficiently by assigning different tasks to different processors, in effect "balancing" the processing load between processors.  In our situation in the NOC, that's generally where we see the most improvement in performance.

 

Without knowing exactly what applications you'll be using, if they are non-multithreaded, you could see as much as a 50% increase in performance. If the applications are multithreaded, then you might see something approaching a 100% increase, depending upon what other areas of your system those applications impact.  As a seat of the pants estimate, I'd say that our web server runs about 50% faster and the mail server is around 75% faster than before.  But those are systems that perform no graphical operations and have relatively slow processors (366MHz and 233MHz respectively), so they are not bound by video or disk bottlenecks.  If your applications are video or disk intensive, you may see lower performance increases.

 

- Drew Dunn

 

Floppy drive - Troubleshooting

 

A floppy drive is not all that sturdy a device. If you open one up and take a look at the heads you will see that they are on a pretty flimsy mount that can easily become misaliged if you insert a floppy with a bent metal slider. The heads can also become dirty.There are <cleaning > floppies that can be used to clean the heads. If the heads have been moved out of position you might be able to realign them but you could never really trust them to work without errors.

 

It has been my experience that once a floppy starts to give you problems and if you can not immediately rectify it with a  cleaning floppy or by re-seating the cableing then it is time to replace it. A new Teac 3.5 inch floppy drive can be purchased from Buy.com for as little as 15 dollars.

 

- Mark Rode

 

General - Backup - The Best Way

 

Can anyone tell me what is the easiest way to set up automatic or almost-automatic backups of data.  Zip drive, Cd-R, tape?   We're looking for the easiest solution.

 

Depends on what you want your backup system to do for you.  The three major contenders are removable drives like the Zip drive, CD-RW and tape.

 

With the larger size of hard drives these days, Zip disks, even at 250MB are too small, medium expense per disk ($8-10) but many needed - too many disk swaps to backup a lot of data and they are not very fast.  Can only transport disks to another system with a Zip drive ($80-160) or requires moving the drive with you.  On the positive side, it is usually quite fast to recover a small number of files.  Backups can be done in background.   Most backup programs will use removable drives.

 

CD-RWs are bigger and faster and cheaper ($1-3)  but still may require backing up chunks that fit on a CD (640MB) or swapping a few disks. Usually quite fast to recover a small number of files due to the speed and size of the disk.  Most systems these days have CD-ROM drives but many older CD-ROMs will not read CD-RWs.  Backups usually require dedicated time due to chance of causing problems with writing disk caused by multi-tasking.  CD-RWs are more versitile and can be used for many other purposes besides backups.  Backup programs that will use CD-RW are not common.

 

Tape is expensive ($20 per tape and $100 and up for drive) but you may only need one tape because they will hold several gigabyte each. Cheaper tape drives are very slow - faster drives are very expensive. Tape drives are like Zip drives in that not many people have them and you would need to move the drive with you to move files to another system.  Backups are easily and usually done in background or can be scheduled to run at night.  Almost all backup programs will use tape of one kind or another.

 

I use tape because of the amount of data that can be written without swapping and because of scheduled night-time backups.

 

- Earl Truss

 

 

I have a contender for a fourth type backup that I use all the time.  I use an external parallel port hard drive with Ghost software.  It has the advantage of being portable, can fit the entire hard drive contents, can restore my entire hard drive, or file by file with Symantec's Ghost Explorer, and is cheap.  I use one of the DataTank external hard drive boxes that has a DOS driver.  My 3 gig hard drive takes about 45 minutes to make a complete copy in the Fast Compression mode. I use a DOS boot disk with the hard drive driver and can then use the hard drive as if it were installed in my machine. Something else to consider.

 

- Doug Simmons

 

 

For automatic backups? Tape by a LARGE margin. While ZIP drives and CDR are great, they are just too small for backing up hard drives. If on the other hand you are just backing up a few MBs then ZIP drives are a nice choice. CDR and CDRW are OK but a little too error prone for me to consider them a automatic backup solutions. For manual backing up they are great though. TTYL

 

- Herbert Graf

 

General - Cleaning your PC

 

First of all be careful of using a standard vaccuum cleaner as it could cause an electrical arc and damage some of the components, becase they are usually not shielded. Sometimes you can buy mini attachments which are

plastic and then you're a bit safer in terms of using a regular vaccuum.

 

Second, a cheap investment is a can of compressed air. Turn your computer off and blast away (carefully).

 

Third, a small brush to dust away the inards is always a safe bet.

Hope these suggestions find you well.

 

- Guido Piraino

 

I have used a bicycle pump before, the kind with a flexible hose, although it takes to people (one to pump and one to point).  Also, "canned air" is available from many stores (make sure you keep canned air upright while

spraying, though).

 

- Martin Kurr

 

General - Finding a free IRQ

 

If you are running win98/95:

Right click on "my computer", click "device manager", double click "computer", there you go, you can see if there is an IRQ free.

I think you will see there is no free IRQ left, but as you can see, IRQ is able to be shared (some devices don't like to share IRQ with others, some do). Even you don't have free IRQ left, there should be no problem to add an exteral modem (it uses IRQ for com port which it attached to), just be careful with internal modem, you should not go for a "soft modem" or "Win Modem" in this configuration. Hardware based modem does not mess up your system and they can be removed easily.

 

- Jun Qian

 

 

At a DOS prompt, enter MSD (then Q) on Windows 3-plus systems. This should show you what you want, and more - without risk.

 

- Boyd Ramsay

 

General - Lightning strike

 

A good friend just called me this morning saying his computer (an HP Pavilion Pentium III) won't start. There was a whopper of a lightning storm last night. You've heard the story before, right?

 

Start by checking the power supply fuse. And any other fuse elsewhere. You may get lucky; most likely not, but try the cheap stuff first. If the modem was plugged into the phone, you may get "lucky" that the phone was an expensive fuse for the modem. Try another power supply if replacing the fuse doesn't work. Go to a basic system: power supply, mobo, CPU, ram. Add the other stuff in the obvious order. Do the cheap fixes first.

 

You're right that lightning is strange stuff when it comes to what was spared and what was fried. Truly an act of God. The weirdest lightning strike I had was a friend's Compaq Presario. Came in via phone line. Fried internal modem and all, count 'em all, user usable expansion slots -- the compaq video card and such are on the mobo. The rest of the computer worked fine. Put an external modem on a serial port and the computer runs just dandy, still, about six months later. Go figure.

 

- Jim Griffin

 

 

You are asking us to speculate without any symptoms beyond it will not start.  That is difficult to do in this case.   But, with that said, the odds are very great that it is a complete waste.  A small spark of static electricity is enough to fry most parts inside a PC, including the CPU, motherboard, ram, hard drives and so forth... the modem is probably the least of his worries if the lightning passed through the PC.

 

Most home owner insurance policies will cover lightning damage to a PC, at least that is what I have found here in the US.  You might have him check to see if they have insurance.

 

- Bob Wright

 

 

There have been a lot of good comments on this topic but one recurring comment that concerns me is that people keep equating surge protection with lightening protection.

 

Comparing electrical surges to lightening is like comparing a drip in the kitchen sink to a full blown, Mississippi River flood. Surge protectors and lightening arrestors are not the same thing.

 

Do not rely on a UPS or a surge protector to save you from lightening.  If you value the equipment, unplug it.

 

- Jim Meagher

 

General - Overclocking - 75/83 MHz bus problem

 

I have an LX chipset Soyo MB with bus speeds of 66,68,75 and 83.  CPU is celeron 300a which runs fine in a BH6 board @ 100 b us.  In the lx board it will only run properly at 68 bus.  At 75 it will boot up and run ok except for graphic programs, like PhotoDeluxe, etc, or internet pages, and will lock up...

 

Well as you guess, your problem is your other devices. When you overclock to anything above 66 on that board, you also overclock the PCI bus. Some cards don't mind, other's do. The fact that it is crashing in graphics

programs leads me to believe that your video card is the cause. It could be a heat problem, try throwing a cooling fan on the main chip of the video card and see if that helps.

 

- Herbert Graf

 

 

 

General - Overclocking - Why can't?

 

> Using Softmenu, I have not been able to overclock this setup at all. Not even 400Mhz. It should clock upto 550 easily with the big cooling fan.

 

While it is possible that the memory is PC66, the most likely thing is that the CPU just won't work at 100 MHz FSB.  In overclocking there are no guarantees.  While virtually all Celeron 300A's will work at 100 MHz, there are some that won't.  I got lucky, mine works flawlessly at default core voltage.  All other Celeron processors have a higher element of "risk."  I have a 366 that will only function at 550 with core voltage raised to the max, until CPU usage gets heavy, then it collapses.  I know others that have no problem at all running at default core voltage and FSB's exceeding 120MHz.  For a slight premium, you can purchase CPU's that have been tested at higher speed, but that really takes the "fun" out of overclocking.  Give it a shot at 75 and then 83MHz and see what happens.  It may be that you're going to have to settle for that.  BTW, did you make sure that your PCI was set to 2/3 on SoftMenu?

 

- Art Cassel

 

General - Overheating

 

I have a AMD 233 mounted on a super 7 motherboard and a decent cooling fan and a layer of thermal paste in between. However, the 233 heats close to 61c and higher and then the system stops. What else, if anything, can I do to reduce this heat? The power supply fan works fine.

 

Well the easiest way is to install another fan. I have 4 fans in my system, one in the power supply, one mounted on the CPU and two in the case, one at the front of the case and one in the middle. An alternative is to install and better heat sink/fan combo on the CPU, but my wind tunnel cools the whole system, not just the CPU.

 

- Herbert Graf

 

 

You should first verify the voltage is properly set for your AMD 233 on this motherboard.

 

CPU cooling fans are rather deceptive. It really is not the fan itself that's most important, but the cooling fins on the fan. You need maximum air exposure (surface area to mass ratio), in a design that will dissipate heat synergistically with the cooling fan.

 

You can also add an intake fan in front of the case, which would blow external air over the CPU.

 

Check your case airflow, since you have an older system. Blow the dust off your motherboard, the components and the power supply (and its exhaust fan) with a can of air. Re-work the cabling so your airflow is improved. Sometimes taping closed some of the holes in the case will improve your airflow (increase the draft) over vital components.

 

I would also remove the thermal paste and either (1) leave it paste-free; or (2) reapply new thermal paste. Some thermal paste applications may harden or lose conductivity with age, and sometimes are not properly applied (non-ceramic top AMD CPUs are difficult applications) . I quit using thermal paste myself.

 

Most hard core computer enthusiasts leave part of the case off to access devices, but they also do this to keep the system cool. Some even point a external fan into the case to lower temperatures further.

 

Even if a computer is running properly, within operational temperatures, reducing the heat by a few degrees will increase the life span of your electronic components.

 

- John Chin

 

 

General - PC/Motherboard Form Factors

 

Last time I cared about motherboard form factors I knew about Baby-AT, Full-size AT, LPX, ATX, Micro-ATX, Flex-ATX, NLX, WTX and Backplane Systems. There are also many proprietary designs, of course.

 

The NLX specification was developed by Intel as a low-profile case and motherboard. NLX systems are designed to use ATX power supplies, even though

the case and motherboard dimensions may be different. NLX computers use a riser board and the motherboard plugs into the riser (unlike LPX where the riser plugs into the motherboard). The power supply connects to the riser, as do the disk drives, front panel lights and switch connectors, etc. So the motherboard in an NLX system has no internal cables, cards or connectors attached to it. If you want to take out the motherboard, no boards or cables have to be removed. Simply slide it out the left side on rails. You can find more information about some motherboard form factors in http://www.teleport.com/~ffsupport/

 

- Oscar Viסas

 

General - Purchasing - Places to Shop

 

I buy all my components from either www.buycomp.com  (buy.com) or www.mwave.com  (MultiWave Direct).  They both have killer prices and very courteous sales reps.  My only complaint is that MultiWave sometimes cannot ship my orders the same day I make them...